Greek Defence Minister Venizelos to the Muslim community: behold the mosque and cemetery

March 8, 2010

Source:  inews.gr

© Translation Muslim Association of Greece

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The way has opened for the construction of the mosque in Votanikos and the creation of a Muslim cemetery in Shisto, after a meeting held between the Mayor of Athens Nikitas Kaklamanis and the Minister of National Defense Evangelos Venizelos. The problem is that the “path” will pass – if it does – through the middle of the Naval Base, cutting it essentially in two and having already caused “frustration” in the Navy, as beyond the procedural issues, the cost is also high. The Navy, of course, cannot do anything enough though they are annoyed, as it has already been agreed by Mr. Venizelos and Mr. Kaklamanis.

The two sides have also come to an agreement regarding the creation of a green park, area of 500acres, in Goudi. The Minister of National Defence has given instructions for the actions needed, as we mentioned above, the land for the construction of the mosque belongs to the Navy and the launch of solutions for both issues. If this happens then a major problem concerning the Muslim community in Athens will be solved.

We remind that discussions had taken place in 2006 as well as a year ago. Then the matter of direct implementation of governmental commitments to build mosque in Athens and a Muslim cemetery in Shisto was brought back by the Muslim Association of Greece.

The President of the Association, Naim Elghandour, had sent letters to the relevant Ministers of Interior and Education Prokopis Pavlopoulos and Aris Spiliotopoulos, requesting the immediate breakout of procedures required.

According to the information then, the president of the Association had stated that due to the obstruction of the Greek state, Muslims find the opportunity to create informal places of worship “with the difference that they do not have as central reference the harmonious coexistence of people and the good of Greece, but promote their own aspirations for their own benefit.”

For the records Mr. Naim Elghandour, the man who played a major role in the Quran story is Egyptian in origin. He lives in Greece for the past 35 years and is naturalized as Greek citizen. As he stated in an interview, “The Muslim Association of Greece is the largest Muslim union in Greece. Our members are Greek nationals, immigrants and refugees coming mainly from Arab countries. We also represent the majority of informal places of worship in Athens. In Athens today live hundreds of thousands of Muslims, from various professions and social statuses, while thousands of children study in Greek schools and universities.”

The Muslim Association states that today in Greece live roughly 1.000.000 Muslims – that is to say, 10% of the Greek population.  It is therefore understandable how important it is to resolve these issues. Particularly, regarding the creation of the first Muslim cemetery, according to information available, that particular land belongs to the Navy but is used by the Army. The municipality requested, the land to be transferred so that the first Muslim cemetery can be created as well as the installations for the combustion of dead; however they examine as an alternative the third cemetery.

Regarding the botanical area, today there operates the Central Marine Car Station, a 20 year old building. If, therefore, the area was freed, the Navy and the Ministry of National Defence have requested the payment of the relocation costs, which makes it almost unaffordable. Regarding Goudi Park, the municipality has asked the Ministry to grant them 500 acres – from the 4500 total in this particular area – so, in cooperation with the Municipality of Zografou, the creation of a single green space. According to the municipality of Athens, that will create a green belt with bicycle paths, and the execution place of Nikos Belogiannis will be designated.

 

Translated by: Elena Nikolova-Pouliasi

Criminal in Greece: Muslim with the Quran

February 24, 2010

Source: Proto Thema

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 A member of a gang of burglars and stolen goods receiver was finally proven to be a young Syrian that had accused a police officer to rip his Quran an step on it last May. There were serious incidents as a result of this accusation in the center of Athens by Muslims and a serious turbulence from the police.  

The 27year old Hasan Ramsy was convicted a few days ago to 10 months imprisonment because he was selling stolen goods. The Quran that he was holding however orders clearly, “Do not steal”…

 

After serious information, there was a police swoop in the underground apartment that Hamzy was living with another Syrian and they bumped into a …treasure. Jewels, watches, mobile phones, electronic devices and other valuable objects were found, that were stolen by a gang of burglars from houses and apartments in the north suburbs of Athens.

During the examination, the 27 Syrian denied that he was in the gang but he claimed that he bought the goods by an unknown man without knowing they were stolen.

His allegation did not convince the court that gave him 10 months imprisonment with a three year parole period, for “accepting and supplying products of crime” while the investigations of the police are continuing to track the gang of burglars.

 

He left at night…

After the end of the trial, Hamzy was left free and he returned to his country as they stated at “Thema” his co-patriots from the Aghios Panteleimonas area, but also the president of the Muslim Association of Greece, Mr. Naim Elghandour, has no better opinion for the 27year old man. “I know that he wanted to leave from Greece. He contacted me and said that he wants to return back to Syria. Generally he was weird. He was hanging around in strange neighborhoods and he was arrested for forged papers. I told him to be careful. He asked me for money to leave Greece but I found out later that he wanted to take advantage of me,” Mr. Elghandour stated.

 

He attempted to legalize himself with forged documents

Hasan Hamzy abandoned Greece just as he came. Illegally. He had stated on a TV show that he came illegally to Samos from Turkey in 2002 and after that he came to Athens. In 2003 he applied for his documents to become legal, when government Simitis had those measures, but stating that he was Iraqi by the name Mohammed Attiq and not Syrian. Last May, a policeman that was participating at an operation-broom at Aghios Panteleimonas at the center of Athens stopped Hamzy to check his papers. According to what the young man stated, the policeman ripped pages from the Quran that he had on him and then he stepped on it swearing.

As a result, there was a reaction by a large Muslim immigrant population that lives in Athens and for two days of serious incidents that were provoked from fanatics who damaged vehicles and stores, and there were also injuries. The Muslim Association of Greece and their president Naim Elghandour condemned those incidents then while they applied a law suit against the policeman who offended the holy book of millions of people worldwide.

Mr. Elghandour underlines that some people deliberately attempted to make Hamzy a hero. “Then at the incidents they attempted to make him a hero but the Muslim Association did not allow that to happen. The incidents were incited and we did not allow Athens to burn once again. What we did and proved that we care for this country, is take a law suit against any responsible person, to put responsibility –if there are to the policeman who ripped the Quran. We are waiting the case to go to trial,” he states.

 

Prayer with an innovated water-saving device

February 7, 2010

Source: Enet.gr

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A Malaysian company has invented a device that, as they claim, will help Muslims to make their cleansing before their prayers without spending too much water.

The “green” device is accompanied by automatic sensors and sinks that interrupt the water flow during  “wudu” – a word with Arabic origin that indicates the procedure that the face, hands and feet of the faithful are cleansed before the prayer.

The ritual of ablution is preceded by the five prayers that a Muslim is obliged to perform.

Today in the world there are 1.7 billion Muslims who mainly live in Africa and Middle East, which are areas with weak water resources.

The device has height of 1.65cm and it recites also Quranic verses. It uses only 1.3 liters of water and it is better than the old traditional methods where tabs are left to run during the entire ablution of the faithful that can last a few minutes.

“During Hajj (Mecca pilgrimage) two million people were spending 50 million liters of water for wudu. If they use this device they will save 40 million liters per day,” states the chairman of AACE Technologies Antony Gomez.

The investors of the company are very optimistic that the rich Muslim countries will obtain this machine that will be available in six months and costs 3-4000 dollars.

Dubai already has expressed interest to obtain this device for the airport, Gomez stated, adding that this machine needed two years to be completed and costs 2.5 million dollars.

Question to the parliament for mosque and cemetery by MP Gr.Psarianos

February 4, 2010

MP of SYRIZA party, Grigoris Psarianos applied yesterday a formal question to the Parliament about the construction of the official mosque and the Muslim cemetery, as this issue seems to be forgotten once again.

Below you can read the entire question

 

 

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Question To Ministers

  • National Defense  
  • Education, Life Learning and Religions
  • Internal Affairs, Decentralization and Electronic Governing
  • Infrastructure Transportations and Networks

 

Subject: “Construction of Muslim mosque and construction of Muslim cemetery”

The Muslim immigrants that live in our country are estimated to be about 700-800 thousand and most of them live in Attica. According to their biggest organization, the Muslim Association of Greece, despite the fact that they do not face problems with the Greek citizens, the same does not happen with the Greek State, which seems to totally ignore their community.

The proof is in the long procrastination of the Hellenic state to fulfill two major issues of the Muslim community: the construction of an official mosque and of a Muslim cemetery in the Attica region.

Today in Athens there are only unofficial praying places, about 100, and the Arabs, Pakistanis, Bangladesh and Kurds that are the majority of the Muslim immigrants. The Muslims from other nationalities pray at the places of the Arab community.

The places are undergrounds, garages, stores, some are neat and others in a miserable situation, depending on the potential of every group. Also in Athens there is not a Muslim cemetery, nor a section for Muslim burial.

Some deceased are transferred to their countries of origin, if this is possible, as it is very costly. Others have no homeland to bury [their dead] as the Palestinians.

The construction of a mosque is described in two laws. The first was by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in 2004 describing the construction of a worship place for the Muslims at Peania.

But this plan was abandoned after the reactions of the residents of the area and the Church as well. The second law was voted on in 2006 and described the construction of the mosque at Eleonas.

Also, according to a briefing to Muslim Association of Greece by the special Secretary of Religions Ministry when the minister was Evr.Stylianides, there was a disbursement of 15 million euro for the construction of the mosque taken by the State expenditure treasury, as the law of 2006 describes, and that the only delay was the relocation of the supermarket of the navy base from this area, something that was under the authority of the Ministry of National Defense.

With a relative question from Syriza PM Pericles Korovesis, on March 2009 to three ministries, the National Defense Minister replies that on August 2008 there had been sent to the Ministry of Education and Religions, “document that are mentioned the possible locations that the mosque can be constructed at the Navy Base of Votanikos, as well as the financial demands for relocation of the activities of the Navy to another area…”

The Ministry of National Defense and the navy headquarters are expecting the notification of the intentions from the Ministry of Religions. The Ministry of Environment and Zoning replied that “the issue of the Islamic mosque is being handled by the Ministry of Education and Religions.

And the Ministry of Education and Religions, refusing any responsibility, replies, “We are notifying you that the responsibility of the ministry lies only to the financial management of the Islamic mosque that starts after its construction.”

However, article 3 of Law 3512/2006 defines that, “the construction of the mosque will be done by the administration of Applying Educational Projects of the Ministry of Education and Religions and with expenses of the Program of State Investments.” Nevertheless the minister “washes its hands” while the first disbursement has been made.

A similar case stands with the construction of the Muslim cemetery. The Church has bestowed for this reason in 2005 a field of 30.000m² at the Shisto area. But according to the document of the ministry of internal affairs “after reservations that the Organization “Athena” expressed regarding the suitability of the place in question for the specific usage, from zoning and ground aspect, this case is reconsidered…”

After that on June of 2009 the Church states with a letter to the Minister of Environment and Zoning, Mr. Souflias, that this is a social necessity and moves to the next step. [It] bestows another field in the area and has already prepared and given the blueprint and asks the immediate response of the ministries. Until today the State has not responded.

 

Because of a multicultural Europe of today, Athens is the only European capital that has not taken care of a place of worship and burial of the Muslim population and because it is an issue of social acceptance and mutual respect  to the hundreds of thousands co-citizens, the ministers in charge are asked:

  1. In which stage are the procedures for the construction of the mosque at Eleonas?
  2. Which ministry is responsible for the funding of the relocation of the services of the navy that is operating in the area?
  3. What happened to the 15 million euro that according to the Ministry of Education and Religions has been disbursed by the treasury for the expenses of the construction of the mosque?
  4. Has a notary action been conducted between the Church and State, with which the specific field at Shisto is being bestowed for the construction of the Muslim cemetery? If not why is it delaying, while the church has all good intentions to proceed with this issue?
  5. Which ministry coordinates the construction of the Muslim cemetery and when is it expected to conclude the works?

The parliamentarian that asks,

Grigoris Psarianos


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Εγκλωβισμένοι στην απόγνωση

January 10, 2010

Source:  Enet.gr

Read in English: click on the “English” link at the top right of this webpage.

Είναι αβάστακτη η αίσθηση της πολιορκίας. Του περιορισμού της κίνησης στη φυλακή, όπου κάθε δρόμος οδηγεί πάνω σε τοίχο. Τοίχο χτισμένο, απτό τοίχο της βίας. Και έρχεται και γίνεται από πάνω συντριπτική η αίσθηση ότι εδώ και τώρα βαδίζει στην κορύφωσή του το νέο κεφάλαιο στο δράμα του Παλαιστινιακού, που χρονίζει ματώνοντας μέσα από τις συμπληγάδες του κυνισμού των τοπικών, περιφερειακών και διεθνών πολιτικοστρατηγικών σκοπιμοτήτων. Ετσι λένε τα «μηνύματα στον αέρα» και από τις δύο πλευρές των συνόρων του μεθοριακού περάσματος της Ράφα από και προς την Αίγυπτο.

Τα νιώσαμε για τα καλά στο πετσί μας τα μηνύματα αυτά μαζί με τον Γιάννη Μπογιόπουλο του «Εψιλον», ενώ προσπαθούσαμε άκαρπα επί 14 ολόκληρες ώρες προχθές να φύγουμε από τη Γάζα, περνώντας από τη Ράφα στην Αίγυπτο. Ενώ ούτε μέχρι το κεντρικό κτίριο για τον έλεγχο διαβατηρίων δεν μας επέτρεπαν να προσεγγίσουμε, ένστολοι και μη αξιωματούχοι φύλαξης συνόρων της Χαμάς, επικαλούμενοι «προβλήματα με τις αιγυπτιακές αρχές», βιώναμε κι εμείς την τραγωδία κάθε ανθρώπινης ιστορίας των εφοδιασμένων με ειδική άδεια διέλευσης Παλαιστίνιων της Γάζας που περίμεναν αγωνιώντας μαζί μας. Ακούσαμε κι εμείς τον γδούπο της έκρηξης ενός ακόμα ισραηλινού αεροπορικού βομβαρδισμού -στο Χαν Γιούνες, ούτε δέκα χιλιόμετρα παραπέρα. Και έφταναν από τηλεφώνου τα νέα από την αιγυπτιακή πλευρά για τις εκτεταμένες συγκρούσεις των συνοδευόντων το κομβόι ανθρωπιστικής βοήθειας στη Γάζα του Viva Palaistina με την αστυνομία στο Ελ Αρίς, κάπου 40 χιλιόμετρα δυτικά.

Εξι λεωφορεία και έξι ασθενοφόρα με στοιβαγμένους δυο δυο και τρεις τρεις αρρώστους, άνδρες, γυναίκες και μικρά παιδιά, που μόνο νοσηλεία έξω μπορεί να παρατείνει την ταλαίπωρη ζωή τους, περίμεναν σταθμευμένα από νωρίς το πρωί σε μια άθλια τσιμεντοστρωμένη μάντρα -τον χώρο αναμονής μισό χιλιόμετρο έξω από το κτιριακό συγκρότημα του μεθοριακού ελέγχου. Τα σύνορα άνοιξαν το μεσημέρι. Αργά, πολύ αργά, πρώτα τα ασθενοφόρα, μετά τα λεωφορεία έφευγαν κινούμενα προς την εξωτερική πύλη και οι επιβάτες με χαρά και λάμψη ελπίδας στα μάτια χαιρετούσαν εμάς που μέναμε πίσω κουνώντας τα χέρια. Κάποιοι που ένιωσαν ξαφνική, βαθιά φιλία μαζί μας, επειδή απλώς είμαστε εκεί και ακούσαμε τα βάσανά τους, μέχρι που δάκρυζαν. «Καλή τύχη, ινσάλα!…»

Νύχτωνε και η έκρηξη ακούστηκε κοντά. Αργότερα μαθαίνουμε ότι ήταν κατευθυνόμενο βλήμα από ισραηλινό F-16. Μη επανδρωμένο αεροσκάφος, μια «ζενάνα» όπως τα λένε εδώ, είχε εντοπίσει μια πενταμελή ομάδα της «Αλ Νάσερ αλ Σαλάχ εντ Ντιν» -πρόκειται για μια από τις μικρότερες ένοπλες οργανώσεις των Επιτροπών Λαϊκής Αντίστασης- που συνεργάζονται «ατύπως» με τη στρατιωτική πτέρυγα της Χαμάς. Οι πέντε φέρονται να έστηναν εκτοξευτή ρουκέτας κοντά στα σύνορα με το Ισραήλ έξω από το Χαν Γιούνες. Ο ισραηλινός πύραυλος σκότωσε έναν και τραυμάτισε σοβαρά τους υπόλοιπους. «Ο μάρτυρας λεγόταν Τζιχάντ αλ Σούμρι», μάθαμε. Το πορτρέτο του ήδη τυπώνεται να γίνει αφίσα δίπλα σε εκατοντάδες άλλες παντού γύρω στη Γάζα.

Ζενάνες πετάνε συνεχώς τη νύχτα πάνω από τη Γάζα ξανά τις τελευταίες μέρες και όλο και κάποιο -καθοδηγούμενο από την εικόνα πραγματικού χρόνου που του παρέχουν- F-16 θα πυροδοτήσει βλήματα. Τη νύχτα της Δευτέρας, μία ομάδα των «Ταξιαρχιών Αμπού Αλι Μούσταφα», της στρατιωτικής πτέρυγας του Λαϊκού Μετώπου για την Απελευθέρωση της Παλαιστίνης, γλίτωσαν παρά τρίχα τον θάνατο. Το βλήμα αέρος-εδάφους αστόχησε. Είχαν λίγο πριν ανατινάξει έναν ηλεκτρονικό αισθητήρα με μη επανδρωμένο πυροβόλο του στρατού του Ισραήλ, έξω ακριβώς από το Μπέιτ Λαχία, στα βόρεια της Λωρίδας της Γάζας.

Ισραηλινό «ξέσπασμα»

Μέσα σε όλη αυτή τη συνεχή ένταση, όπου οι φήμες για επικείμενη νέα μαζικής κλίμακας επίθεση του στρατού του Ισραήλ στη Γάζα δίνουν και παίρνουν στους δρόμους (και ο τελευταίος μικροπωλητής έχει να αναπτύξει σχετικό σενάριο) προέκυψε και ανακοίνωση του εκπροσώπου των «Ταξιαρχιών Ιζεντίν αλ Κασάμ», της στρατιωτικής πτέρυγας της Χαμάς: Ο Αμπού Ομπέιντα (πολεμικό ψευδώνυμο) αρνήθηκε κάθε εκδοχή για «σιωπηρή ανακωχή» της ισλαμικής οργάνωσης με το Ισραήλ στη Γάζα, λέγοντας ότι «δεν υπάρχει άμεση ή έμμεση συμφωνία με τον σιωνιστή εχθρό». Ομως επιβεβαίωσε ότι η Χαμάς σταμάτησε να εκτοξεύει ρουκέτες εναντίον του Ισραήλ «για ένα προσωρινό διάστημα σε συνεννόηση με τις άλλες οργανώσεις».

Επίσης, από προχθές το πρωί επέστρεψε στη Γάζα ο Γκέρχαρντ Κόνραντ, ένας από τους Γερμανούς διαμεσολαβητές στις διαπραγματεύσεις της Χαμάς με το Ισραήλ για την επίτευξη συμφωνίας ανταλλαγής του αιχμάλωτου Ισραηλινού στρατιώτη Γκιλάντ Σαλίτ με έως και 1.000 Παλαιστίνιους κρατούμενους. Προτίθεται να μεταφέρει στην άλλη πλευρά, ταξιδεύοντας πάλι μέσω Καΐρου, τις τελευταίες προτάσεις της ισλαμικής οργάνωσης.

Στο μεταξύ, στο Ελ Αρίς γινόταν χαμός. Δεκάδες οι τραυματίες από το Viva Palestina στις προχθεσινές συγκρούσεις με τα αιγυπτιακά ΜΑΤ και 15 οι τραυματίες των ανδρών ασφαλείας. Εδώ και τρεις μέρες το πλοίο από τη Λατάκεια της Συρίας αποβίβασε στο -μάλλον φτωχών υποδομών- λιμάνι της μικρής αυτής παραμεθόριας αιγυπτιακής πόλης τα 198 φορτηγά της διεθνούς αυτοκινητοπομπής ανθρωπιστικής βοήθειας, επικεφαλής της οποίας παραμένει ο Βρετανός βουλευτής Τζορτζ Γκάλογουεϊ. Αποκλεισμένα όλα αυτά τα οχήματα και οι συνοδεύοντες (κυρίως Βρετανοί, Αμερικανοί και Τούρκοι) στους καγκελοφραγμένους ντόκους του λιμανιού και άρχισαν οι… διαπραγματεύσεις με τις αιγυπτιακές αρχές. Οι Αιγύπτιοι επέμεναν να κόψουν στα δύο το κονβόι. Να επιτρέψουν μόνο στα 140 φορτηγά να περάσουν από τη Ράφα, ενώ τα άλλα 59 να μπουν στο Ισραήλ και -μάλλον από το μεθοριακό πέρασμα του Κερέμ Σαλόμ από όπου μόνο φορτηγά επιτρέπεται να περνούν- να μπουν στη Γάζα.

Οι ξένοι το αρνήθηκαν και ο Γκάλογουεϊ διαμαρτυρήθηκε έντονα με δηλώσεις του στην αιγυπτιακή τηλεόραση: «Είναι -είπε- εντελώς ακατανόητη (η απαίτηση των αιγυπτιακών αρχών) το 25% του κομβόι να πάει στο Ισραήλ και να μη φθάσει ποτέ στη Γάζα. Διότι τίποτα που μπαίνει στο Ισραήλ δεν φτάνει ποτέ στη Γάζα».

Και τότε άρχισαν όλα. Οι συνοδοί του Viva Palestina, περίπου 520 άτομα, όρμησαν στην πύλη του περίβολου του λιμανιού και την άνοιξαν με τη βία. Κάπου 2.000 παρόντες αστυνομικοί και ΜΑΤ τους αντιμετώπισαν με ξύλο, δακρυγόνα και εκτοξευτές νερού. Και όταν τους τελείωσαν τα… πολεμοφόδια πήραν ακόμα και με τις πέτρες τους ξένους… παρείσακτους. Επτά από τους οποίους έχουν συλληφθεί. *

Greece: Religious minorities – second class worshippers…

January 2, 2010

Source: Enet

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“If the religious leaders stand to the level of the circumstances, then not only will they prevent the use of religion for other purposes unknown to their mission, but they will promote specific proposals of a flourishing inter-religion cooperation. Such a perspective that can develop through the inter-religion dialogue, is most certain that will be supported not only by the international organizations but from the political and spiritual leaders of all peoples,” was writing at “E” the Prime Minister George Papandreou when he was minister of foreign affairs on January 29, 2002.

Today in Greece the problems of the religious minorities remain unsolved. At the meetings that have the representatives of religions and dogma, most of the time they are focused on the problems that they face with their relations with the Greek state than between them.

Thousands of immigrants

Despite of the fact that the population of “others” has increased dramatically in the last two decades of thousands of immigrants mainly from the Muslim countries, nothing has been done to solve the problems of the religious minorities.

Despite the promises and commitments of the governments of Pasok and Nea Dimokratia, none of the claims has been solved. “E” is recording the problems that Muslims, Catholics and Jews face, who most of them are Greeks and are treated as second class worshipers.

 

CATHOLICS

They manage without any financial support

Dramatic changes to the Church of Greece brought the massive entering of immigrants in our country

Until recently the Catholics were a small religious minority that counted about 50.000 Greeks and a small number of western Europeans that were in our country due to family or professional reasons. Today only in Athens is estimated that the Catholics are 150 to 200 thousand, while more small Catholic communities of immigrants have appeared at several places in Greece. According to the rules of the Catholic church, those fresh-arrived worshipers, no matter what nationality or origin they have, they do not form their own bishopric, but they belong to the local Catholic bishoprics and parishes. Thus a new status is created for the local Catholic church, a multi-national and multi-cultural congregation at the bishoprics and parishes, where the Greek Catholics are a minority any more (in Athens the proportion is one Greek to nine foreign Catholics).

A number of problems concern the national Catholic church related mostly to the newly-arrived worshippers. And as Greek language is not their primary language, more priests are called from Poland, Iraq, Philippines, Albania, Africa who they find it very difficult to settle and work legally in Greece.

Father Theodoros Kondides, the Abbot of Jesuit monastery in Athens talks to “E” concerning a big challenge, and he clarifies that “the Greek Catholic church attempts to create a Christian community with heterogeneous worshippers regarding their origin, but they are united by the same faith and they belong to the same ecclesiastical body”.

Father Kondides refers also to the financial problems that his church faces in Greece. The church’s income he states, “comes from membership fees and from the exploitation of the real property. They cannot depend on aid from the Hellenic state nor from abroad as Greece is considered a “rich” country – member of the EU and for any support the priority goes to the needs of the poor countries”.

Permanent malfunctions

Permanent malfunctions faces the Catholic Church and due to a not complete and vague legal acknowledgement and a public management, which often is negatively determined towards the “foreign doctrines” and offers very limited financial means. The result is between others that a significant number of ecclesiastic monuments or buildings which is a part of the cultural heritage of Greece as well (in Tinos, Athens, Corfu etc.) not to be able to have maintenance, and they gradually are destroyed. Regarding to this issue two questions to the minister of culture and tourism Pavlos Geroulanos applied recently the parliamentarians N.Alevras (PASOK) and F.Kouvelis (SYRIZA). At both questions it is mentioned the fact that the Catholic church is making constant claims to the related ministers for a long time, asking to intervene to restore the Cathedral Church of St. Dionysius at Panepistimiou Street, that had serious damages at the earthquake of 1999. By not receiving any answer the Catholic Archbishopric expresses their fears that the funding is not approved because they concern a Catholic church and not an Orthodox one.

 

JEWS

Target of attacks and vandalisms are Jewish places

A veil of silence covers the history of the Jewish community of Greece and only recently the state intervened in order to honor the memory of the oldest organized religious community in our country.

On 2004, with the intervention of the foreign minister of that time George Papandreou the 27th of January was set as a day of memory for the victims of the Holocaust by law 32/18/2004. The first historical report for the settlement of the Jews in Greece lies around 350-250 B.C. Since then the Jewish population increased dramatically in Greece. During the Judaic wars (66-70 AC) 6000 Jews were participating according to testimonies to the construction of Corinth Isthmus.

In the 12th century, it is said that Jews settled in Corfu, Arta, Patrai, Nafpaktos, Corinth, Thebes, Khalkis, Thessaloniki, Drama and elsewhere. Jews also lived at islands Lesvos, Chios, Samos, Rhodes and Cyprus. Those Jews that were called “Romaniotes” integrated in the Hellenic culture, and it is characteristic that they were writing Greek texts using the Jewish alphabet.

A mass immigration stream happened in the 14th century when Jew refugees from Spain and Portugal settled in Greece. The settlement was mainly in Thessaloniki and at cities of Thessaly where the Sephardim Jews brought their language –Spanish-Jewish – and their own customs.

Between 16th and 18th century the Israelite community of Thessaloniki was one of the largest in the world. Significant were also the Israelite communities at Rhodes and Crete.

When the new Greek state was founded on 1830, the Jews enjoyed equal political rights with the rest of the Greeks, on 1882 the Jewish communities were acknowledged as legal bodies.

In the beginning of 20th century, about 10000 Jews lived in Greece. After the Balkan wars (1912-13) and the liberation of the North Greece, Epirus and Aegean islands, Crete (1908) and Chios, the number of Jews reached 100.000.

After the 2nd World War when the Italians (1940) and the Germans (1941) attacked against Greece, 12 898 Jews joined the Hellenic army forces.

During the German occupation (1943-1944), by applying the “Final Solution”, the Nazis launched a systematic persecution of the Jews through Greece by tracking, arresting and exiling them at the internment camps in Poland. Eighty six percent of the Jewish population (more than 67.000 people) was perished during the Holocaust. After the end of the war the Jews that survived and returned back to Greece were only 10.000. This population decreased even more due to the migration of many Jews to Israel and USA.

Today in Greece live about 5000 Jews, organized in nine communities.

Despite of the fact that the Jewish community is fully integrated in the Greek reality, anti-Semitic incidents occur often. Target of attacks and vandalisms are often Jewish places (synagogues – monuments – cemeteries). These concern very much the Jewish authorities that ask from times to times from the state to take measures – but with no response – as the enforcement of the anti-racist laws and the protection and guarding the Jewish places. The abolition of anti-Jew customs as the burning of Judas and anti-Jew references to the Eastern Anthems also concern the community. “The matter of anti-Semitism keeps concerning us. In Greece seems to exist the tendency if racist discriminations other circles there is a anti-Semitic spirit,” states the president of the Central Jewish Council of Greece Mr. Moses Konstantinis to “E” and adds, “There are example cases where cleric, political factors find an opportunity to manifest similar feelings. The trial of the abusive and calumnious of the Jews, and supporter of Nazism K.Plevris was an example. The trial that lasted about two years with all phases with different judges revealed to the public opinion district attorneys that the Jews were deliberately attacked and the final verdict (votes 4-1) to not-guilty of the accused made the district attorney of the supreme court to recantation in favor of the law considering that “the five member interpreted and applied incorrectly the relevant law (927/1979) in order not to validate legally anti-Semitism” Mr Konstantinis also refers to the permanent claim without response of the Thessaloniki community where they ask compensation for the destruction of the Jewish cemetery during the German occupation (today in this place is located at the university) and to the salaries of the rabbis that ask to come from the state budget as already happens with the salaries of priests of other religions.

 

MUSLIMS

The mosque and the cemetery, promises that are not fulfilled

The mosque and the Muslim cemetery remain two of the promises that gave the governments of PASOK and ND the last decade but they have not fulfilled them.

The construction of the mosque is anticipated through two laws.

The first was of the foreign ministry and on the occasion of the Olympic games of 2004 that took place in Athens and was referring to the construction of a worship place for the Muslims at Peania. But the law is not always a law, as often happens in Greece, and the plan was abandoned after the reactions of the residents of the area and the Church authority. It is characteristic that the bishop of the area on August 2004 had confused the matter of the mosque with the rubbish dump. He referred that time with a written statement “if the government wants to show to the international community that we are modernized as a folk and civilized, let them move away the rubbish dumps from Mesogeia, Koropi and Peania that infect our lungs everyday and humiliate our country internationally and then they can build the Islamic center that insults our spirit and history.”

The second law was voted in 2006. It was announced by the Minister of Education and Religions, Marietta Giannakou, and was referring to the construction of a mosque at Eleonas. For a number of reasons the mosque issue had no luck so far.

Regarding the Muslim Cemetery the development was similar

30.000m² at Shisto

The Church had given a field of 30.000m² at Shisto area in 2005. However after about four years the Muslim Association of Greece that was motivated this, was informed through the answer that was given on May 2009 the Deputy Minister Ath. Nakos that “ the area that was offered by the Church of Greece for the construction of the Muslim cemetery was judged by the authorized services as unsuitable for zoning a cemetery.”

After that, with a decision of the Holy Synod, another field was given again in Shisto area. But until now there is no development at all.

The Muslim Association of Greece addressed once more to three ministers of the new government of PASOK to remind them of the chronic problems.

The first letter dated October 26, 2009 that sent addressed to the education minister Anna Diamandopoulou and after they describe what has happened – and not happened – the last years they underline: “According to the latest formal briefing we had from Mr. Angelos Syrigos, special secretary when minister was Euripides Stylianides, the Ministry of Finance had laid out 15 million euro for the construction of the mosque from the state expenditure fund as is mentioned at “Giannakou law” of 2006 and the only barrier was the relocation of the supermarket of the Navy Base from the area and this was under the authority of the Ministry of Defense. We offered to gather this amount for the relocation that is 5 million euro in order to start the project but our proposal was not accepted. As we realized and as the ministers changed, nobody knew what really should be done and no one was in charge any more.”

The second letter dated October 29, 2009 addressed to the vice president of the government Theodore Pangalos and between others they illustrate a numbers of issues that are really serious: “Many times the ‘imams’ of the mosques project all the time the word ‘sin’ in order to cover their ignorance, cutting the bridges that would lead to the integration with the society. So they find in Greece a fertile soil to act without any control and this is something they could not do at their countries of origin. Also there are several that manage the unofficial mosques that they do not wish the construction of a formal mosque because they will lose their privileges, the influence groups and the fees of the worshipers from the alms money.”

The third letter dated November 11, 2009 addressed to the Minister of National Defense Vangelis Venizelos. In the letter the attitude of the former Minster Vangelis Meimarakis is being denounced, “He showed in fact a great unwillingness to solve this matter”, they refer and later they report, “To our personal live discussion he did not give us a clear aspect nor he directed us to someone in charge from his ministry in order to solve this matter.” The only one who has responded so far is the minister of Defense Vangelis Venizelos who by his associates, according to sources, asked to be filled in not only for the mosque issue but for everything that concern the Muslims that live in Greece.

 

Thomas Tsatsis – Elisabetta Casalotti

tsath@enet.gr – casalotti@enet.gr

Patriarch: ready to turn to the European court for human rights

December 21, 2009

Source:  Skai.gr

Translated © Greeks Rethink

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An interview of Ecumenical Patriarch for a Turkish newspaper

“[I am] determined to drive the case of Theological School of Halki to the European Court of Human Rights,” states to an interview for a Turkish newspaper, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew.

Mr. Bartholomew repeats to “Haber Turk” that the patriarchy wishes to operate the school again as it used to reminding that the two latest ministers of Education of Turkey have stated that there is no legal obstacle for its re-opening.

If by the end of the year there is not any development for the Halki issue then we will exhaust all legal measures in Turkey and go to the European Court,” he states.

In the same interview, Mr. Bartholomew reveals the content of a recent conversation with Turkish Prime Minister Rejeb Tayib Erdogan. Most likely he referred to what they discussed last August at Pringipos when Mr. Erdogan visited the Monastery of Saint George Koudounas and the wooden building of the orphanage where he was welcomed by the Patriarch.

At this discussion Mr. Bartholomew asked the re-opening of the Theological School and the reply of Mr. Erdogan was that “in Athens there is no mosque”.

The Ecumenical Patriarch replied to him that this is not his responsibility on this specific issue and that he would not object with the existence of a praying place for the Muslims that live in Athens.

We paid the consequences of the Tukish-Greek relations and of Cypriot Issue. We are citizens of this country and we want our rights” said between others the Ecumenical Patriarch.

European mentoring course for converts: photo gallery

December 17, 2009

The following is an article and photo gallery of the NEMA mentoring course in Rotterdam, the Netherlands, that took place on December 12-13, 2009. Two members from the Muslim Association of Greece and one member from Greeks Rethink attended the course.

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The Mentoring Course that NEMA organized  (Native European Muslim Assembly, affiliated to FIOE) was indeed a great success. People from many countries as Finland, UK, France, Belgium, Italy, Germany, Greece and Holland attended it. The location was the Islamic University of Rotterdam and the honored guest was professor Jamal Badawi, a beloved scholar for millions of Muslims worldwide. The mentoring course was held by Kathleen Roche Nagi who runs the Approachable Coaching Program (www.approachablecoaching.com).

The Dutch Muslims presented their activities to us, their goals and participated actively with lectures that aimed to realize the situation and the challenges of the New Muslims. They presented their association and their websites www.ontdekislam.nl & www.lpnm.nl

The Mentoring Course was a sequel of previous and future sessions and when they are completed the attendees will be certified mentors in order to use their skills to the demanding convert community. The promising aspect was that most of the future mentors were converts themselves and this is always preferable in order to achieve maximum effect.

Dr. Jamal Badawi was giving lectures and answering all questions of the attendees and as well he gave more lectures out of the course at Erasmus University and at an Arabic center, so we were happy to follow him and listen to his teachings that are really inspiring and enlightening for all Muslims.

Greece was represented by three members of our group Elena Pouliasi, Amir Arvanitis and Anna Stamou but we also met our sister Stefanie Danopoulos, a Greek-Dutch, who lives there and was very active indeed in this event as a member of the Dutch Muslim Community.

Although the program was very tight and we had to squeeze time and learn as much as possible, we had a great time and endless talks with each other as we shared experiences and impressions from our countries. We were all sad when Sunday afternoon came and we promised to meet at the next session for mentors and of course at the NEMA camp that will be announced soon.

Indeed all people of NEMA did a wonderful job, the program was very successful like the previous ones and we are looking forward for their new website that will be launched soon.

Click below to see the full photo gallery.

 

 

My compatriots’ vote to ban minarets is fuelled by fear

December 6, 2009

Source: Enet.gr (Greek version) 

Source: Guardian  (English version)

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The Swiss have voted not against towers, but Muslims. Across Europe, we must stand up to the flame-fanning populists

 

An article of Tariq Ramadan

It wasn’t meant to go this way. For months we had been told that the efforts to ban the construction of minarets in Switzerland were doomed. The last surveys suggested around 34% of the Swiss population would vote for this shocking initiative. Last Friday, in a meeting organised in Lausanne, more than 800 students, professors and citizens were in no doubt that the referendum would see the motion rejected, and instead were focused on how to turn this silly initiative into a more positive future.

Today that confidence was shattered, as 57% of the Swiss population did as the Union Démocratique du Centre (UDC) had urged them to – a worrying sign that this populist party may be closest to the people’s fears and expectations. For the first time since 1893 an initiative that singles out one community, with a clear discriminatory essence, has been approved in Switzerland. One can hope that the ban will be rejected at the European level, but that makes the result no less alarming. What is happening in Switzerland, the land of my birth?

There are only four minarets in Switzerland, so why is it that it is there that this initiative has been launched? My country, like many in Europe, is facing a national reaction to the new visibility of European Muslims. The minarets are but a pretext – the UDC wanted first to launch a campaign against the traditional Islamic methods of slaughtering animals but were afraid of testing the sensitivity of Swiss Jews, and instead turned their sights on the minaret as a suitable symbol.

Every European country has its specific symbols or topics through which European Muslims are targeted. In France it is the headscarf or burka; in Germany, mosques; in Britain, violence; cartoons in Denmark; homosexuality in the Netherlands – and so on. It is important to look beyond these symbols and understand what is really happening in Europe in general and in Switzerland in particular: while European countries and citizens are going through a real and deep identity crisis, the new visibility of Muslims is problematic – and it is scary.

At the very moment Europeans find themselves asking, in a globalising, migratory world, “What are our roots?”, “Who are we?”, “What will our future look like?”, they see around them new citizens, new skin colours, new symbols to which they are unaccustomed.

Over the last two decades Islam has become connected to so many controversial debates – violence, extremism, freedom of speech, gender discrimination, forced marriage, to name a few – it is difficult for ordinary citizens to embrace this new Muslim presence as a positive factor. There is a great deal of fear and a palpable mistrust. Who are they? What do they want? And the questions are charged with further suspicion as the idea of Islam being an expansionist religion is intoned. Do these people want to Islamise our country?

The campaign against the minarets was fuelled by just these anxieties and allegations. Voters were drawn to the cause by a manipulative appeal to popular fears and emotions. Posters featured a woman wearing a burka with the minarets drawn as weapons on a colonised Swiss flag. The claim was made that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with Swiss values. (The UDC has in the past demanded my citizenship be revoked because I was defending Islamic values too openly.) Its media strategy was simple but effective. Provoke controversy wherever it can be inflamed. Spread a sense of victimhood among the Swiss people: we are under siege, the Muslims are silently colonising us and we are losing our very roots and culture. This strategy worked. The Swiss majority are sending a clear message to their Muslim fellow citizens: we do not trust you and the best Muslim for us is the Muslim we cannot see.

Who is to be blamed? I have been repeating for years to Muslim people that they have to be positively visible, active and proactive within their respective western societies. In Switzerland, over the past few months, Muslims have striven to remain hidden in order to avoid a clash. It would have been more useful to create new alliances with all these Swiss organisations and political parties that were clearly against the initiative. Swiss Muslims have their share of responsibility but one must add that the political parties, in Europe as in Switzerland have become cowed, and shy from any courageous policies towards religious and cultural pluralism. It is as if the populists set the tone and the rest follow. They fail to assert that Islam is by now a Swiss and a European religion and that Muslim citizens are largely “integrated”. That we face common challenges, such as unemployment, poverty and violence – challenges we must face together. We cannot blame the populists alone – it is a wider failure, a lack of courage, a terrible and narrow-minded lack of trust in their new Muslim citizens.

Tariq Ramadan, a Swiss citizen, is professor of contemporary Islamic studies at Oxford University. His most recent book is What I Believe

His official website is www.tariqramadan.com.

Enet.gr: Immigrant neighorhood in Athens

December 4, 2009

The Arabs have their own corner at the Neos Cosmos neighborhood of immigrants

Source : Enet

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A scent of aromatic spices is spread at the alleys of Neos Cosmos in Athens. Satellite dishes and men’s washed clothes coexist in the tiny balconies of the old residential buildings for the workers. Young Arabs ask for 30€ a day at construction jobs.

The Arabs settled at Neos Cosmos since the 80s looking for a new life. The central mosque of the Arabs is located at a multi-storey building on Galaxia Street.  At the entrance we met Naim Elghandour, president of the Muslim Association of Greece, “Yesterday night they attempted again to attack an Arab store of the neighborhood. It was the same group. The Arabs caught on to them and they chased them. Now they are guarding their stores”.

There is an Arabic supermarket in the building’s basement.  The owner is Mazen Rassas, vice president of the Association. He treats us mango juice saying that “around the neighborhood there are about ten Arabic mini markets. Our customers are Syrians, Egyptians and Iraqis. But Greeks also come.”

Rassas narrates, “We settled at Neos Cosmos in the 80s. It was then that the first Arabs were arriving. Then we began constructing this building. We used the underground garage as a mosque. We were asking permission from the governments to build our mosque ourselves but they did not allow it. We hope one day to achieve it”.

The shelves of the store – as in all Arab stores – are loaded with Arabic bread, dates, Arabic newspapers, rice and lentils of fine quality, spices that their smell is spread out to the street. But there are no customers, “the same situation we share with all Greek store owners. We are dancing the same dance…”

Brothers, cousins, the whole family lives on the upper floors of the building. For so many years there has never existed a single problem with the neighbors. Even when we gather every Friday more than 1000 Arabs to pray”. They squeeze, one next to the other, and they do not fit in. They fill the stairs, the pavement…

We descend with Naim Elghandour to the second basement that operates as a mosque. A blue carpet is laid down and has a ventilation system. Young Arabs are studying the Quran.

Behind a curtain at the right corner is the library. Every weekend, they say, is full of students that learn Greek and Arabic language, and are taught the Quran.

No cemetery

The vice president of the Muslim Association is pointing out the need for a cemetery. “I buried my parents at Komotini. For years and years we knock the doors of the ministries without an answer”.

N.Elghandour adds, “We pay the operating expenses from our pockets. We do not ask for funding and European programs, we want to be independent. But a program for integration of the Arabs could be launched in the local society. We also ask from the City of Athens to bestow us a place with low rent to cover the needs of the community. We closed our offices to save the rent.”

We discussed the attack at the two stores, “It was a fascist attack. Some young people attacked, but also young are the Arabs. If they chase them they will catch them. And then we will go to another situation. The state must secure the fortune of the victims of such terroristic attacks. We noted down the destruction and we will claim compensation at the courts.”

In Attica, more than 700 000 Muslims live legally. We need an imam theologist, with academic education. If they allow this we will pay from our wages his salary and his accommodation. Now every community sets an imam that is a construction worker…” he adds.

A few meters away, at Dorm Street, the workers’ residential building are located. Men’s clothes freshly washed and satellite dishes are witnessing that there lives exclusively Arab immigrants. “They repaired the face work, the apartments. They were dilapidated,” an old woman remembers.

We met her across the street at the store “Salma” that was destructed at the attack. Salle gives her a bottle of water. He says that “I am trying to replace the broken glass windows. I pay 350 euro for 9m².” His customers are the Arabs of the buildings across. “Here lives more than 200 Syrians. They all work at construction jobs. They pay rent of 250-270 euro for 30 m² at these dilapidated buildings. Three to six people live in every small apartment.

We go four floors up by the stairs. There was never an elevator. Nor central heating. From the moldy walls of the corridors old pieces of plaster are dropping. Hussein, 28, opens his door and shows us the repairs proudly. He tiled the bathroom and repaired the old window doors. He lives with an Iraqi to share the rent. He complains, “There are no jobs. A year without a wage. And I just ask for 30 euro a day. But in Syria and Iraq things are worse. It is impossible to go back”.

The Greeks

At the entrance we meet a Greek man, “Some Greeks and Arabs sub-rent rooms by person. Things get wild. It’s like we have a piece of meat, we pull from the edges like dogs”.

At the Arabic café, at Kasomouli Street, the Arabs of the neighborhood met. “Here we live 350 Arabs. Every morning we go to work, at evening we go home. We gather ten people in each apartment. We drink tea, chess, backgammon, cards. This is our life,” says Aiman Alahmat.

“Did the neighbors stand up for you?”

“One does not bother the other. We do not steal, we do not make trouble. We know each other, many of us are relatives. We need work and legal documents. Not to be attacked by the fascists and not to be disturbed by the police. We do not need them.”

At the café, before the gathering of Arabs and Greeks in order to group the “committee of Greeks and immigrant residents of Neos Cosmos,” we met Thanasis Kourkoulas from the movement ‘Deport Racism’: “Many Arabs from Neos Cosmos are attending the Sunday immigrant school. They have an organized community, they help each other to overcome the difficulties. They are angry though because suddenly fascist groups are appearing that question their peaceful coexistence.”

By Georgia Dhama

Photo by Spyros Tsakiris

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