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		<title>Comment on The right to dress &#8211; does it suit your eye? by Elena</title>
		<link>http://www.greeksrethink.com/2010/03/the-right-to-dress-does-it-suit-your-eye/comment-page-1/#comment-2655</link>
		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Iman, 
The story if funny how i thought about it, i will tell you sometime.
 But for me is a serious thing and has so many aspects of why politicians want and people agree.
I was reading a very nice article from a Greek journalist yesterday saying that oppression for women is what &lt;em&gt;Sex and the City&lt;/em&gt; and the stereotype of sexy, money spending on shoes and clothes to look good for men. 
There are so many parameters on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Iman,<br />
The story if funny how i thought about it, i will tell you sometime.<br />
 But for me is a serious thing and has so many aspects of why politicians want and people agree.<br />
I was reading a very nice article from a Greek journalist yesterday saying that oppression for women is what <em>Sex and the City</em> and the stereotype of sexy, money spending on shoes and clothes to look good for men.<br />
There are so many parameters on that.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The right to dress &#8211; does it suit your eye? by ImanK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Elena for writing this.  I like how you brought up this viewpoint because not many people see the ban on niqab as violating a human right.  But I agree with you.  That&#039;s one sticky point governments are dumbfounded with - what if women &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;choose&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; to wear niqab??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Elena for writing this.  I like how you brought up this viewpoint because not many people see the ban on niqab as violating a human right.  But I agree with you.  That&#8217;s one sticky point governments are dumbfounded with &#8211; what if women <strong><em>choose</em></strong> to wear niqab??</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greek Defence Minister Venizelos to the Muslim community: behold the mosque and cemetery by ImanK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, yeah I thought so too. :)  Now, I just hope people use it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, yeah I thought so too. <img src='http://www.greeksrethink.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Now, I just hope people use it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Greek Defence Minister Venizelos to the Muslim community: behold the mosque and cemetery by Elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the new sharing :) Its soo cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the new sharing <img src='http://www.greeksrethink.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Its soo cool</p>
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		<title>Comment on Revealing the real purpose of fasting by ImanK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree, when you have a firm belief in God, then things like fasting just come naturally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree, when you have a firm belief in God, then things like fasting just come naturally.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Revealing the real purpose of fasting by Amir Abdullah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amir Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fast oh children of Adam, that you may cleanse yourselves, this is better for you if only you knew.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Revealing the real purpose of fasting by Br. Adelfos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Br. Adelfos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalamu alaikom, dear Sister Iman,

May I add a few points there?

I think being a true Muslim is a decision driven by both mind (first) and (then) heart.

Once your mind recognizes that: 
1- Indeed, there is nothing worthy of being deified except the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth (Allah), 
2- Muhammad (PBUH) is a true (and the final) prophet and messenger of Allah.
3- The Qur&#039;an is the verbatim word of God/Allah.
4-That the painstakingly authenticated Ahadeeth (sayings) and Seerah (life) of Muhammad (PBUH) are true...

...then you&#039;d accept (or should accept) everything else (all the details) blindly without rationalizing, since the mind has already fulfilled its role and a solid rational basis has been established for faith.

That said, if one must look for a rationalization for fasting as we Muslims are ordered to do, I think one could say it&#039;s about realizing the blessings that one enjoys at other times of the year and about sympathizing with people deprived of those blessings.

Some might say: &quot;Well we understand the part on food, but what about water/drink? How many people out there really spend the whole day without a glass of water or drink?&quot;.

Such people (the posers of the question) fail to realize that there are many African communities in dire need of fresh (drinkable) water who toil all day to fetch some impure water to their families, only to expose them to potential unavoidable health hazards&quot;.  

Other people might say: &quot;Well what about sex?&quot;.

Again, only if you&#039;ve been leading a religious God-fearing life and abstaining from pre-marital or extra-marital sexual relationships would you appreciate the blessings that an intimate marital relationship can give to the husband and wife.

And... Wa&#039;llahu a&#039;alam (God knows best)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalamu alaikom, dear Sister Iman,</p>
<p>May I add a few points there?</p>
<p>I think being a true Muslim is a decision driven by both mind (first) and (then) heart.</p>
<p>Once your mind recognizes that:<br />
1- Indeed, there is nothing worthy of being deified except the Creator of the Heavens and the Earth (Allah),<br />
2- Muhammad (PBUH) is a true (and the final) prophet and messenger of Allah.<br />
3- The Qur&#8217;an is the verbatim word of God/Allah.<br />
4-That the painstakingly authenticated Ahadeeth (sayings) and Seerah (life) of Muhammad (PBUH) are true&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;then you&#8217;d accept (or should accept) everything else (all the details) blindly without rationalizing, since the mind has already fulfilled its role and a solid rational basis has been established for faith.</p>
<p>That said, if one must look for a rationalization for fasting as we Muslims are ordered to do, I think one could say it&#8217;s about realizing the blessings that one enjoys at other times of the year and about sympathizing with people deprived of those blessings.</p>
<p>Some might say: &#8220;Well we understand the part on food, but what about water/drink? How many people out there really spend the whole day without a glass of water or drink?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Such people (the posers of the question) fail to realize that there are many African communities in dire need of fresh (drinkable) water who toil all day to fetch some impure water to their families, only to expose them to potential unavoidable health hazards&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Other people might say: &#8220;Well what about sex?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Again, only if you&#8217;ve been leading a religious God-fearing life and abstaining from pre-marital or extra-marital sexual relationships would you appreciate the blessings that an intimate marital relationship can give to the husband and wife.</p>
<p>And&#8230; Wa&#8217;llahu a&#8217;alam (God knows best)!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Revealing the real purpose of fasting by SonOfSparta</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally I agree for the most part it is people who fail to act in accordance to scripture. The way in which various people fast in various religions may differ in terms of dates and what foods to avoid, but in its essence the idea behind fasting since antiquty has always been to purify oneself and act as a reminder of abstinence from selfish and carnal desires. Unfortunately more people dwell on the celebrations that comes at the end of the fast ( Yom Kippur, Easter, Ramadan ) rather than on the journey of participating in the fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally I agree for the most part it is people who fail to act in accordance to scripture. The way in which various people fast in various religions may differ in terms of dates and what foods to avoid, but in its essence the idea behind fasting since antiquty has always been to purify oneself and act as a reminder of abstinence from selfish and carnal desires. Unfortunately more people dwell on the celebrations that comes at the end of the fast ( Yom Kippur, Easter, Ramadan ) rather than on the journey of participating in the fast.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Revealing the real purpose of fasting by ImanK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ImanK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there SOS.  I think we finally agree on something.  I love that we can find a commonality between us.  Yes, of course, this post, like many of my posts, are written from my personal experiences in life and religion.  I definitely agree that fasting is not about food, but about piety by staying away from sins.  In fact, that was the entire purpose of my post.  So, we agree.

What I found interesting from your comment is that you now have a little taste of what Muslims feel on a daily basis.  It seems like you are trying to show that actions of some Christians does not equal Christianity.  Just because some Christians do not follow the scriptures or don&#039;t understand the meanings behind things like fasting etc., that doesn&#039;t reflect poorly on &lt;strong&gt;Christianity because a religion is based on its scripture, not its people.&lt;/strong&gt;

That&#039;s exactly what Muslims want to educate the world on.  Just because you see some Muslims that are not educated about Islam doing wrong actions, that does not mean that that is Islam.  &lt;strong&gt;If you want to know about Islam, you need to go to its scriptures.&lt;/strong&gt;

But, I guess you already agree with me on that. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there SOS.  I think we finally agree on something.  I love that we can find a commonality between us.  Yes, of course, this post, like many of my posts, are written from my personal experiences in life and religion.  I definitely agree that fasting is not about food, but about piety by staying away from sins.  In fact, that was the entire purpose of my post.  So, we agree.</p>
<p>What I found interesting from your comment is that you now have a little taste of what Muslims feel on a daily basis.  It seems like you are trying to show that actions of some Christians does not equal Christianity.  Just because some Christians do not follow the scriptures or don&#8217;t understand the meanings behind things like fasting etc., that doesn&#8217;t reflect poorly on <strong>Christianity because a religion is based on its scripture, not its people.</strong></p>
<p>That&#8217;s exactly what Muslims want to educate the world on.  Just because you see some Muslims that are not educated about Islam doing wrong actions, that does not mean that that is Islam.  <strong>If you want to know about Islam, you need to go to its scriptures.</strong></p>
<p>But, I guess you already agree with me on that. <img src='http://www.greeksrethink.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Revealing the real purpose of fasting by SonOfSparta</title>
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		<dc:creator>SonOfSparta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are going to be critical of why people fast in the Greek Orthodox Church at least get your facts right! I truly enjoy the bold font to emphasize your prejudice perception of why Christians fast,

&quot;It was normal for all of us Greek Orthodox to fast before Easter and go out and have fun at the exact same time – without feeling an inch of guilt.&quot;

^^ This is the norm for whom eactly? The general Greek Orthodox public? Your personal experiences? Your particular generation or growing up in your particular region in Greece?

Don&#039;t you think that by making bold type statements like this you are stereotyping an entire society? If you want to point out that there are hypocrites who call themselves Christians that is fine, for all societies are full of people who fail to live in accordance to their religion, however since you were once Christian I would assume you had mental capacity to understand from a young age what fasting consists of in the Christian Orthodox world, and it is not simply about avoiding certain foods and going out to have &#039;fun.&#039;

From St. John Chrysostom, Homily III; 

&quot;I speak not, indeed, of such a fast as most persons keep, but of real fasting; not merely an abstinence from meats; but from sins too.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are going to be critical of why people fast in the Greek Orthodox Church at least get your facts right! I truly enjoy the bold font to emphasize your prejudice perception of why Christians fast,</p>
<p>&#8220;It was normal for all of us Greek Orthodox to fast before Easter and go out and have fun at the exact same time – without feeling an inch of guilt.&#8221;</p>
<p>^^ This is the norm for whom eactly? The general Greek Orthodox public? Your personal experiences? Your particular generation or growing up in your particular region in Greece?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think that by making bold type statements like this you are stereotyping an entire society? If you want to point out that there are hypocrites who call themselves Christians that is fine, for all societies are full of people who fail to live in accordance to their religion, however since you were once Christian I would assume you had mental capacity to understand from a young age what fasting consists of in the Christian Orthodox world, and it is not simply about avoiding certain foods and going out to have &#8216;fun.&#8217;</p>
<p>From St. John Chrysostom, Homily III; </p>
<p>&#8220;I speak not, indeed, of such a fast as most persons keep, but of real fasting; not merely an abstinence from meats; but from sins too.&#8221;</p>
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