October 14, 2009 by Anna 

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The first Muslim Conference in Athens is a fact. On Tuesday October 6 at the National Research Foundation the conference took place by the title “The Muslim Communities and their Cultural Identity”. The organizers were the Cultural Center of the Iranian Embassy in Athens, the World Forum for Proximity of the Islamic Schools of thought and the Muslim Association of Greece.

The unity of the Muslims was the basic characteristic of this conference. Shias and Sunnis all sat together and discussed basic matters that affect all Muslims of the Western world.

Famous guests honored the event as Ayatollah Taskhiri, Ayatollah Ahtari and professor Tabarayan from Al Zahra University Tehran who traveled from Iran for this event exclusively. From Egypt came Dr. Mohammed Abdelmaksoud Herzullah of Al Azhar University and imam of the Hussein Mosque of Cairo.

From Muftiya of Didymotiho participated the deputy mufti Dr.Yashar Damadoglu, and from Komotini came Mr. Hassan Patchaman and the unofficial mufti of Komotini Mr. Ibrahim Sherif.

The national communities saluted the conference, stating -beside their presence- the basic problems the Muslims face as the lack of mosque and Muslim cemetery. A salutation also addressed professor Vangelis Pissias.

The identity of the Muslim at the non-Muslim country was the central point where all speakers inclined to the fact that the Muslim must be in a brotherhood with his co-religionists, not to let small differences divide them because this way he loses his rights.

The Muslim must respect the laws of the country he lives in and to be dutiful to his obligations in order to be in position to deserve and claim from his society. There is a way to maintain his identity and at the same time to integrate as long as he is a true believer, pursue the unity and participate actively at the Muslim community.

This is the first time that such a conference is organized and in fact, it had a very satisfactory turnout and media coverage. Also, the local authorities expressed their interest to have more educational events as seminars or conferences aiming at the information, education, solving of problems around the life of the Muslims in our country. The Muslim Association of Greece illustrated the necessity of such events as they benefit the society on the whole because the society asks for improvement of its problems, harmonious coexistence between citizens and mutual respect.

The outcome of the conference read Professor Tabarayan and in the end he emphasized the significance of showing the right face of Islam to the world and that Muslims should work towards this way, always in unity.

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Muhammad Herzullah, Professor of Al Azhar University – Imam of Hussein Mosque Cairo

The request of the presence of an official imam and the existence of a mosque and Muslim cemetery in Athens expressed in his interview at “Ethnos”, Dr. Muhammad Herzullah, Professor of Al Azhar University and Imam of Hussein Mosque of Cairo. Dr. Herzullah defends the ideals of Islam and states that many times Islam is distorted in the West. The imam also rejects the aspect that the division of the Muslims into Shias and Sunnis has religious base and he supports that in fact there are different schools of Islamic thought.

An interview with Paraskevi Vonatsou

The interview was given in the context of the International Conference that took place in Athens the day before yesterday and the translation was made with the assistance of the president of the Muslim Association of Greece, Mr. Naim Elghandour.

In the Western world many times it is attempted to connect Islam with terrorism. How do you interpret that?

There is not the relevant education to understand Islam. In the countries that the one is connected with the other there is not the right information, Islam is something unknown.

Islam is a religion with high standards, respects for others and all opinions. This is the basis of Islam. I wish there were theologians coming from certified universities to many countries, in order to avoid misconceptions.

Then why there are deaths in the name of jihad?

The word jihad is another misunderstood term of the West that connects it with terrorism. It is a fight, and effort, a struggle. The word jihad exists everywhere: when one is going to study, to work, when one tries to solve problems between people, when he preserves his rights, when he defends his country.

In Athens, where there is not an official imam, is there a bad interpretation of the Quran from those who play the imam role at the unofficial praying places?

This is really very dangerous because anyone may interprete the Quran as he pleases. The authorities of the countries that have Muslim population must take care of the wellbeing of the country and for the harmonious coexistence, they must solve this matter, so that the faithful know which is the true Islam.

Does the religious division between Shias and Sunnis exist, or this is a case of political perspectives?

In fact those are different Islamic schools of thought. This hard rivalry between them is provoked by enemies of Islam, as happened in Iraq, where after the intervention of the foreign powers began the inner fight between them.

What is Islam at last? Is this a religion, and ideology or a way of living?

Islam is the vein of life. What gives life. It respects other religions, wants dialogue and thinking, and adopts the exchange of opinions with other religions, in order to eliminate religious conflicts and deaths in the name of religions.

There is the aspect that the Muslim woman has a diminished role in the society. Is this an order from the Quran?

No, this is a wrong aspect. Islam has given rights to the woman and gives her freedom of thinking and will. For example when a woman does not want to marry someone, she expresses that, she cannot get married by force, also the courts issue divorces to women. The Muslim is also a very good husband.

Polygamy is not derogatory for a woman? Why does it not exist for the opposite also?

I invite you to think which is best: a man to have two or three formal wives with rights at heritage, at pension and fortune or to have mistresses? The vise versa does not stand because a woman is not created in her nature to have many husbands. It is scientifically proven that the woman in her nature cannot marry more than a husband. This does not underestimate the woman. It is characteristic that many women accept the role of the second wife instead of being mistresses without marriage.

How do you comment the fact that there is not an official mosque and Muslim cemetery in Athens?

Greece is considered as the Cradle of Democracy and Freedom since those ideals were born here. I also ask the Greek government to make action those that your country represents. Like in Egypt, we have Orthodox churches and schools and communities and cemeteries.

Muslim Conference in Athens

The different schools of Islamic thought but also the hot issue of not having a mosque and a Muslim cemetery in Athens were the issues that were discussed at the first international conference titled “the Muslim Communities and their Cultural Identity”.

The initiative for the organizing this belongs to the Cultural Center of the Iranian embassy in Athens, to the World Forum for Proximity of Islamic School of Thought, and the Muslim Association of Greece. In the beginning at his salutation, Mr. Yunes, representative of the Afghani immigrants in Greece underlined that Athens is the only European country, despite of the existing laws that has not allowed yet the existence of a formal place of worship and a cemetery for the Muslims.

On behalf of the Muslim Association of Greece, Mrs. Anna Stamou underlined, “Islam is a system of life, not just a religion, and takes part at every aspect of people’s life. If someone wants to be called a good Muslim, he must fully respect the laws of the state in the country he lives.” The result of the conference was read by a professor of Tehran university and concluded that the right face of Islam must be shown globally.

Between the speakers were Ayatollah Akhtari, of the International Committee of Prophet Muhammad’s descendents, Ayatollah Taskhiri, secretary General of the World Forum for Proximity of Islamic School of Thought, Yashar Sherif Damadoglou deputy mufti of Didymotiho and the unofficial Mufti of Komotini Ibrahim Sherif, to whom the Muslim Association of Greece kept the distances.

Source: Kathimerini (Newspaper in Greece)

Al Maamoun, one of the most enlightened leaders of history, requested of Leon 5th neither money nor land. But only permission to acquire a collection of scientific writings that were stored by the Byzantine Empire. The caliph of Baghdad, once Leon gave his permission, launched one of the biggest in history of civilisation translation. The result was the exact version of the Ancient Greek literature in Arabic. In that period (700-1000) there were more translations of Aristotle in Arabic than in all the European languages.

As Mr K.P. Romanas (Professor of Philosophy in University of Aegean) claims, “for the communion of the Medieval Islamic world a lot has been written in Europe but hardly anything in Greece (…)”. Even in Europe, who received the light of the Greek culture to a great extent from the Islam of the Arabs, the conscience of this debt has only recently started to register and increase (..). It is obvious that Hellenism which found its supposed continuation in Orthodoxy would only possibly acquire the same enemies as Orthodoxy.

In the middle ages (2050-1050) the most renowned Aristotelian philosopher in the West , mostly widely known today as  Averroes ( Abu-al-Walid Muhammad ibn-Ahmad ibn-Muhammad ibn-Rushd), was an Arab from Cordova. He and a few others famous thinkers are considered to a great degree as the forerunners of the Universities in Europe. Averroes was at his time opposed from all religions as one of the greatest heretics in history. It was not of no small significance to teach mortality of the soul as a result of its close dependence to the body.

But in the making of Modern Greek history there is  no Averroes or Avicenna (Abu Ali al-Husayn ibn Abd Allah ibn Sina), but only Plython Gemistos ( his intervention is significant and is connected with the outbreak of Renaissance, but the fuel had already been accumulated by the Arabs of the 10th and 11th century). Somehow it determined our relationship with Islam. With half truths and always from “above”. from each authority with its interventions or the lack of them.

Greece has a unique feature compared to other European countries. It comprises the establishment of an “old” Muslim minority while in recent years it hosts also another “new” Muslim minority. Mr D Christopoulos (assistant professor in Panteion University) expresses how in Greece today “new” and “old” Islam co-exist.

One would expect that the existence of the “old” Islam would make things easier for the “new” Islam. However the new reality shows that in the collective social conscience Islam exists as close as to the stage of folklore. Engraved in Thrace is recorded as an act of a local matter. That’s why there the hijab, the 300 mosques and the Ottoman cuisine have been reported as “couleur locale”.

There might be no problem with the 300 mosques in Thrace, but there is a problem with the one mosque in Athens. Maybe the application of a small part of urban law of the shariah might not be a disturbance in Thrace, but in Athens the Muslims are excluded from all civil rights. For example in 2003 the then Internal Affairs Minister, Lampros Papadimas, decides that the entry in the registers of Thrace  for marriages solemnized in front of the Mufti of Thrace a) Muslim with non Muslima b) Greek national with foreigner c) Muslim with Muslim residing out of Thrace is not allowed .

In this way Constantine Tsitselikis, assistant professor of the University of Macedonia, observes, the possibility of the ceremony of Muslim marriages for out of Thrace residents is cancelled as they (the marriages) are not recognized under Muftia.

Here begins another dark story. The “new” Muslims of Athens (approx. 150,000 and 15,000 from the “old” Islam ) as they have not got the civil rights of the Greek people and having lived under the arrogance of the state, they will resort to legalize love, divorce , inheritance through Islam. Meeting the “old” in Thrace.

But since 2003 even this solution is forbidden and out of bounds. For obvious reasons the Greek state dreads the osmosis of the “two” Islam . So this fear justifies any guilt of their absolutely illegal decision.

They also have no right to death. To bury their own, they must either transport the body of the deceased to Thrace or to their own countries at a huge cost. The result: “They work to be buried and not to live”.

It goes without saying that the issue of coexistence with Islam does not seem simple or easy. But what we are witnessing these past days is the establishment of a social stigma against a religious group. Already treated unequally: by a group of religious rights (religious freedom), they are a group of collective target and monitoring as a matter of preventive security guarantee.

In this frame we watched a parade in the TV channels of some “unlikely presidents” of associations with just a stamp with “secret services accent”. And they «discover» foreign embassy forces by recognizing employees, but ultimately do not specify how they met them.

Source:  Council of Europe

Strasbourg, 19.02.2009 – “Effective protection of minority rights is a fundamental pillar of pluralist societies. Greece still needs to make more and strenuous efforts to ensure that these rights are fully respected and protected”. With these words Thomas Hammarberg, the Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights, published today a report on human rights of minorities in Greece, focusing on issues relating to the right to freedom of association, statelessness and application of the Sharia Law.

While commending certain efforts made by the authorities in particular in the field of minority education in Thrace, the Commissioner remains deeply worried about the persistent denial of recognition of minorities other than the tripartite ‘Muslim’ one in western Thrace. The Commissioner also expresses his serious concerns by the over-restrictive practice of Greek courts that has led to non-registration of certain minority associations. “The authorities should urgently make possible the effective enjoyment by minority members of their right to freedom of association” said Thomas Hammarberg. “A consultative mechanism should also be created to ensure a continuous dialogue at all levels with minority groups, in accordance with the Council of Europe standards.”

The Commissioner also urges the authorities to complete promptly their efforts aimed at restoring the Greek nationality of those minority members who were deprived of it unlawfully by virtue of the former nationality code. “Particular care should be provided to those remained in Greece and who have limited financial resources to cover welfare and medical services” said the Commissioner. “As for the denationalised persons who are abroad, the authorities should consider the possibility of providing them, or their descendants, with satisfaction.”

Furthermore, Commissioner Hammarberg expresses serious concerns about the application of the Sharia Law concerning family and inheritance matters to Muslim Greek citizens in Thrace, by Muftis appointed by the Greek state. “Given the issues of incompatibility of this practice with European and international human rights standards, it is necessary to overhaul this practice and strengthen the substantive review and control by domestic courts of the Muftis’ judicial decisions.”

Finally, the Commissioner calls upon the Greek authorities to proceed promptly to the ratification of or accession to certain major Council of Europe treaties, such as the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities, the European Convention on Nationality and the Fourth Protocol to the European Convention on Human Rights.

The report is based on the Commissioner’s visit to Greece on 8-10 December 2008. It is available, together with the Greek authorities’ comments, on the Commissioner’s website.

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