Eid Al Adha prayer for Muslims in Athens

Source:  City Press

Translation © Muslim Association of Greece

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Yesterday’s public player that was performed by at least 13.000 Muslims in twelve different points of Attica was unprecedented for what is usually happening in the capital. This public manifestation worked as triggering event for the development of a Mosque in Athens but as well as the expected social reactions.

The prayer, which was performed due to the occasion of celebrating the first day of the Muslim feast Eid-Al-Adha (equivalent to the sacrifice of Abraham) started at 7:40 in the morning and lasted approximately three hours. As the Greek Police stated, the Muslims’ manifestations were attended by 4.000 people at Aigaleo, 2.000 at Kiprou str.  at Moschato, 500 at Propilea were the prayer took place under the initiative of the Muslim Association of Greece, 600 at Attica square, 1.000 in the old Racetrack Court in Faliro, 1.000 at Karamanlis Avenue at Menidi, 300 at the in the basketball court of Elefsina, 250 at Aspropirgos and 1.000 in the court of Ierotheos at Peristeri.

All the manifestations took place peacefully, with the exception though of Attica square. There, a group of habitants attacked with eggs and with other objects against the offhand prayer site, though other habitants had placed on their balconies Greek flags, they put loud music inorder to interrupt the process of the prayer.

The Request for an Official Prayer Site

Yesterday’s prayer was the third one that took place in a public place, (previously it had been performed in Kotzia square and in Olympic stadium) but it was the most impressive. The representatives of the Muslims referred again on their claim for the development of an official prayer site. Mr. K. Aivaliotis representative of LAOS’s party stated that this is a “demonstration of power in Athens by African Muslims.”

 “In the times we live in, it is imposed, in the civilisation we claim we are having and which governs our society, and it is a duty of the Greek state, to facilitate each person who wants to perform his religious duties” the Government’s representative, G. Petalotis, highlighting that “there is a legal commitment made to create a Mosque in Athens, in order for our fellow Muslim citizens to perform with safety and liberty their religious rights.”

In Athens… by Coach

 “Athens needs many , small sized religious prayer sites for the immigrants”, the journalist Stavros Theodorakakis claimed yesterday while on air on the radio station Flash, who due to his show for the flux of immigrants in Greece through the land borders( it will be presented next Sunday) , he stayed  for a few days in Evros.

 “ The loops that originate from Turkey, meaning the slavers and the traffickers have realised that practically the Greek Authorities have no practical means to oppose against the flux of unarmed immigrants” Mr.Theodorakis stated, though Mr. Salamagkas, police officer of Orestiada , referred, participating in the same show , that the Authorities after the capture of the immigrants and their identification, they release all those who cannot be deported (such as Palestinians or  Afghanis for whom there are specific international treaties about their immunity.) They are given a piece a paper referring that they should leave the country within thirty days  and they leave them free outside the detention centres where they are temporarily located. There usually there is a coach awaiting them who transports them in Athens.

Translator:  Myrto Zacharof

Regarding change of mind…

Source: To Vima

Benaki museum (celebrating its eighty years of artistic richness) exhibits the paintings of Theofilos. It is an issue for experts whether Theofilos was as great as regarded by many or not. Either way he was important to everyone. That is for his compositions, colors, themes and I would add his optimistic poetic objectivity.

The exhibition includes a number of paintings, all of them depicting Greek cities of the 30s. Distinctly, one may observe the churches and their bell towers. Only that? No! We may also observe the mosques and their minarets.

And now, we are discussing with hundreds of thousands of native or immigrant Muslims, for ONE mosque. With or without a minaret?

With the exception of Thrace, the majority of those old mosques are demolished by some, starting from the minarets, (the city of Rethymnon is among the few exceptions of respect to the past).
Some others have “utilized” mosques, turning some of them (such as the mosque of the central square of Nauplion) into cinemas. Isn’t that a reminder of the occupied part of Cyprus?

Recently, in Athens, thousands of Muslims, very few of them related to the Turkish-speaking minority, gathered to celebrate Ramadan at the square of National Resistance across town hall. As if they were homeless. The incredible mayor (with lower “m”) almost demanded the award of respect for human rights, as a return of granting his permission. What if he didn’t, would armed forces have intervened?
What about the Turks? At first, let us remind that gradually (but rather slowly) the situation is getting better for minorities and among them the Christians. However, it should be underlined that our state should adhere the freedoms of our own constitution and that cannot be a subject of our bilateral relations. That is a matter of principal of our respect of the European values of freedom and equality.

However, issues of worship is only one part of the subject matter, the other is politics. For example, at this moment, in both Ankara and Athens there is an ongoing reevaluation of “defensive dogmas”. In Ankara, they start putting aside the like of neighbor-enemies.

Here, with a 20-year delay we are facing the possibility (they say) of abolishing any “threats from the North”, totally focusing on the East instead. The Turks, semi-officially proposed, the mutual reduction of armament. In the midst of drowning, we are seeking to invest in more arms and an alliance with Israel. Without even asking our neighbors, since you propose, come and let’s discuss if you seriously mean it…

When everything changes, why don’t we change our minds?

Translated by Gerasimos Loukatos

Official report on the flotilla campaign by IHH

Below is the official report for the Mavi Marmara ship to Gaza campaign.  I’m glad to see that the IHH from Turkey has officially documented all of the information, photos and statistics for the Flotilla campaign. 

Take a look:

Download: 8.03MB

(May take a little time to download the report. )

 

Erdogan visits Greece on a Friday but no mosque

Source:  Today’s Zaman (Turkey News)

‘Mosque in Athens a bitter story, but hopefully one with a happy ending’

Athens is the only European capital that does not have a mosque — although it does have a Muslim population of around 700,000. Elghandour, a naturalized Egyptian Greek, and his wife, Anna Stamou, say that like other Muslims in Athens, they pray in garages, shops and homes, but they are hoping that within a couple of years, they will be able to pray in a real mosque.

“[Prime Minister Recep Tayyip] Erdoğan’s visit coincided with Friday [the day of Muslim congregational prayer], but there’s no place to worship here,” Elghandour said, noting that the Greek administration’s announcement that a mosque would be constructed came shortly before Erdoğan’s visit, but that soon after this announcement, debates began over whether or not it would have a minaret.

“To those who propose a minaret-less mosque, we ask whether it would do to have a church without a steeple. But I’m sure that we’ll also overcome this problem,” he said. Elghandour said that the mosque to be built will be constructed in a style that is in harmony with Athenian architecture. “We’ll explain that the mosque will not affect the city’s overall silhouette, and we’ll convince the public. The Athenian public is slowly getting used to Islam, and they’ll also get used to the idea of a mosque.”

The fact that Athens has a Muslim minority but no mosque has to do both with Greece’s slow-moving bureaucracy and the memory of the Ottoman years. More urgently than a mosque, the Muslims of this city need a cemetery; there had once been a plan to create one on land allocated to the Muslim community by a church, but as the spot was on a cliff it wasn’t suitable for usage as a cemetery. Now, however, a new location is being prepared to be a cemetery, Elghandour said.

“The church allocated some land in the town of Shisto. We’ll convert it to a cemetery. Until now, our Muslim dead were sent to their home countries or to cemeteries in Thrace.”

According to Elghandour, the turning point in the story of Athens’ mosque-to-be was 2006, when a law went into effect mandating the construction of a mosque using public funds.

“The issue of the construction of a mosque in Athens first came to the agenda in the late 1930s, but was forgotten when World War II emerged. Then in the 1980s, the ambassadors of Arab nations in Athens began pressuring for a mosque to be built. In 2000, a law was passed for the construction of a mosque and an Islamic cultural center. But that never happened, either. As it is, we’d prefer a mosque built with Greek public funds, because that is more appropriate — and a mosque built with our money will also affect our mentality. Back then, the space allocated for this was near the airport. But the Muslims in Athens have slowly but surely made themselves accepted in this society, and outside of a few fanatics — and there are fanatics everywhere — there’s nobody left who opposes the idea of a mosque,” Elghandour relates.

Elghandour first came to Athens 40 years ago and recalls that everyone thought it was strange when he performed the Muslim prayers. “But now, I can take out my prayer rug anywhere and perform my prayers and nobody thinks it odd. The Athenian public has started reading up on Islam,” he says.

His wife, Stamou, says that it is no longer strange to be a Muslim woman in Athens, and while people used to stare at women wearing the Islamic headscarf, it’s no longer so unusual a sight. “They used to look so queerly! In fact they still wonder why I wear the headscarf and they ask questions about it, but they no longer think it strange. This doesn’t mean that we don’t encounter discrimination though — for example when on the job search, we’re not chosen sometimes because of our clothing,” she said.

The Elghandour couple are parents to two small children, Ismail and Iman. They’re not concerned about the future of their children as Muslims in Greece, however, and they don’t expect them to encounter the same difficulties their elders did. The Muslims of Athens hope to be worshipping in a new mosque within the next two years. Despite the economic crisis in Greece, they think that public funds will still be used to build a mosque, emphasizing that the necessary money for this project has already been earmarked. In order to get Athenians themselves used to the idea, they prayed the last holiday prayers at the site where the mosque is to be built.

The 17-decare plot of land set aside for the mosque is in the Votanikos district. On a section of that land, there is still an auto repair garage belonging to the Greek naval forces. The planned mosque is to be 840 square meters and big enough to hold 500 worshippers. When asked whether a mosque with a 500-person capacity isn’t just a bit small for 700,000 people, Elghandour laughs and winks in reply, “Let’s get the first one built, get the Athenian public used to a mosque — the second and third ones will be built soon after, I’m sure.”

 By AYŞE KARABAT

Criminal in Greece: Muslim with the Quran

Source: Proto Thema

 A member of a gang of burglars and stolen goods receiver was finally proven to be a young Syrian that had accused a police officer to rip his Quran an step on it last May. There were serious incidents as a result of this accusation in the center of Athens by Muslims and a serious turbulence from the police.  

The 27year old Hasan Ramsy was convicted a few days ago to 10 months imprisonment because he was selling stolen goods. The Quran that he was holding however orders clearly, “Do not steal”…

 

After serious information, there was a police swoop in the underground apartment that Hamzy was living with another Syrian and they bumped into a …treasure. Jewels, watches, mobile phones, electronic devices and other valuable objects were found, that were stolen by a gang of burglars from houses and apartments in the north suburbs of Athens.

During the examination, the 27 Syrian denied that he was in the gang but he claimed that he bought the goods by an unknown man without knowing they were stolen.

His allegation did not convince the court that gave him 10 months imprisonment with a three year parole period, for “accepting and supplying products of crime” while the investigations of the police are continuing to track the gang of burglars.

 

He left at night…

After the end of the trial, Hamzy was left free and he returned to his country as they stated at “Thema” his co-patriots from the Aghios Panteleimonas area, but also the president of the Muslim Association of Greece, Mr. Naim Elghandour, has no better opinion for the 27year old man. “I know that he wanted to leave from Greece. He contacted me and said that he wants to return back to Syria. Generally he was weird. He was hanging around in strange neighborhoods and he was arrested for forged papers. I told him to be careful. He asked me for money to leave Greece but I found out later that he wanted to take advantage of me,” Mr. Elghandour stated.

 

He attempted to legalize himself with forged documents

Hasan Hamzy abandoned Greece just as he came. Illegally. He had stated on a TV show that he came illegally to Samos from Turkey in 2002 and after that he came to Athens. In 2003 he applied for his documents to become legal, when government Simitis had those measures, but stating that he was Iraqi by the name Mohammed Attiq and not Syrian. Last May, a policeman that was participating at an operation-broom at Aghios Panteleimonas at the center of Athens stopped Hamzy to check his papers. According to what the young man stated, the policeman ripped pages from the Quran that he had on him and then he stepped on it swearing.

As a result, there was a reaction by a large Muslim immigrant population that lives in Athens and for two days of serious incidents that were provoked from fanatics who damaged vehicles and stores, and there were also injuries. The Muslim Association of Greece and their president Naim Elghandour condemned those incidents then while they applied a law suit against the policeman who offended the holy book of millions of people worldwide.

Mr. Elghandour underlines that some people deliberately attempted to make Hamzy a hero. “Then at the incidents they attempted to make him a hero but the Muslim Association did not allow that to happen. The incidents were incited and we did not allow Athens to burn once again. What we did and proved that we care for this country, is take a law suit against any responsible person, to put responsibility –if there are to the policeman who ripped the Quran. We are waiting the case to go to trial,” he states.

 

Patriarch: ready to turn to the European court for human rights

Source:  Skai.gr

Translated © Greeks Rethink

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An interview of Ecumenical Patriarch for a Turkish newspaper

“[I am] determined to drive the case of Theological School of Halki to the European Court of Human Rights,” states to an interview for a Turkish newspaper, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew.

Mr. Bartholomew repeats to “Haber Turk” that the patriarchy wishes to operate the school again as it used to reminding that the two latest ministers of Education of Turkey have stated that there is no legal obstacle for its re-opening.

“If by the end of the year there is not any development for the Halki issue then we will exhaust all legal measures in Turkey and go to the European Court,” he states.

In the same interview, Mr. Bartholomew reveals the content of a recent conversation with Turkish Prime Minister Rejeb Tayib Erdogan. Most likely he referred to what they discussed last August at Pringipos when Mr. Erdogan visited the Monastery of Saint George Koudounas and the wooden building of the orphanage where he was welcomed by the Patriarch.

At this discussion Mr. Bartholomew asked the re-opening of the Theological School and the reply of Mr. Erdogan was that “in Athens there is no mosque”.

The Ecumenical Patriarch replied to him that this is not his responsibility on this specific issue and that he would not object with the existence of a praying place for the Muslims that live in Athens.

“We paid the consequences of the Tukish-Greek relations and of Cypriot Issue. We are citizens of this country and we want our rights” said between others the Ecumenical Patriarch.

Rethink’s art pick of the week 2009-10-01

Spices at Egyptian market in Istanbul, Turkey.

Credits: Koukla

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Greek slant on Euroarabia and Islamophobia

Source: Enet.gr

by Pericles Korovesis, PM SYRIZA to the Greek Parliament.

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Is Europe in danger of becoming Islamized? How can Turkey, a non-Christian country that never has had Renaissance and the Age of Enlightenment, integrate into Europe without distorting its characteristics? Should all Muslims be expelled from Europe in order to find the lost identity?

These are some questions and more similar others that the Right and extreme Right Wing of Europe and the USA are asked to answer. Several books have been written and the Yellow Press officiates of racist campaigns of any kind incriminate immigrants that have Islamic religion.

Racism and nationalism, in order to make its arguments seem truthful, must distort reality. So the fact is concealed that in Europe, out of 493 million residents, only 3-4% are Muslims. And still they do not bring the question of who brought them. After World War II, Europe needed cheap workers. Where could they find them? The old empires sufficiently destroyed their colonies. France made mass import of workers from North Africa. Britons brought workers from India and Pakistan. Holland brought Moroccans. Germany preferred to bring Turkish, but also took Greeks, Yugoslavians and Italians. Even the Spanish that did not want Muslims at all for historical reasons brought Muslims massively in 1970 for the needs of their economy.

Mainly, this working force was occupied for the hardest and heaviest jobs, was living in the urban ghettos and never attained the same rights with the natives. Even the second or third generation that had no Islamic education and the vast majority of them went to public schools (in France only 5% of the Muslims go to the mosques), they have not become first class citizens. Surely there are extremists as they exist in every religion. But they are an insignificant minority cut from the Muslim community.  If we can talk about something like that, their problem is not the Islamization of Europe, but the unemployment that hits always the weak.

The extreme right parties as the National Front of France, Liberty party of Austria or the British National Party etc., have invented a neologism: “Euroarabia”. And that means new pogroms. Islamophobia takes the place of the old anti-Semitism that carries basic characteristics to Islam. For example, that behind any world conspiracy Islam and Arabs are hiding. After 9/11, terrorism and Islam were coincided, and was formed the axis of good Bush and of bad Muslim. In Greece, these theories have not found a ground yet, because what  prevails is the native xenophobia and the specialized Turkophobia. But besides this, we have made neither a mosque nor cemetery for the Muslims. And maybe this is our own Islamophobia. At the point where there is no tolerance for the others, the different, there is no democracy and we enter in dangerous paths. And the other becomes the enemy.

Movie review: Waiting for the clouds

 

The movie, Waiting for the Clouds, depicts the story of an elderly woman named Ajshe, who was a survivor of the turbulent 1920’s that reshaped the Balkans by war, genocides, evictions, forced population exchanges, new nation formation/expansion, political ideological clashes and nationalistic fervor on all sides. 

Ajshe never though forgot her childhood identity and memories which she kept hidden deep inside her for many years.  At a very young age she was one of the victims of those turbulent times when she, known then as Eleni, was given by her father, after a difficult march from their native Mersin (southern Turkey) to a Muslim family from the Black Sea region (Pontos-Karadeniz) who promised to protect and rear her as their own. 

Eleni’s family roots were Rum (Christian).  There in Pontos Eleni (Ajshe) lived for many years yearning especially to reunite with a long lost brother who got caught up in the great population exchange between Muslims from the areas newly acquired by Greece and Christians from the newly formed state of Turkey known as the Laussane Treaty of 1922.

The movie was interesting as it was based on some true elements in history that surrounded the Communist movement taking place in Turkey in the early 1970s.  Apparently, it seems that Ajshe’s father, in the early 1920s, may have been a communist who were seen by the Turkish state as sympathizers with communist Russia and therefore traitors.  Russia was one of the powers who dreamt at a piece of the pie after the dismemberment of the Ottoman State and dreamt of the incorporation of Turkish land into her nation.

As history tells us, the Pontians (Karadenizler) mainly live in Northern and North Eastern Turkey most of whom for various reasons chose to convert to Islam during the Ottoman period, although quite a few remained Christian, and so you will see that their language is a mix of an old Hellenic form and Turkish. A fraction of Pontians (Christians) were forcefully expelled to Greece in the 1922 exchange of populations and were settled into lands and homes of Muslims forced out of Greece.

Even though the movie had some religious elements to it, it was mainly focused on political ideological struggles and to a lesser extent ethnic ideas and conflicts and therefore, I do not recommend watching it to gain anything Islamic out of it since there were some folklore practices mentioned that have nothing to do with Islam but with local practices that predate Islam and perhaps even Christianity.

But, if you’re just looking for an emotional movie filled with human tenderness and beautiful scenery, and just a slight insight into political/ethnic tensions this just might be the movie for you.

 

Greece: “More and strenuous efforts are needed to protect minority rights” says Commissioner Hammarberg

Source:  Council of Europe

Strasbourg, 19.02.2009 – “Effective protection of minority rights is a fundamental pillar of pluralist societies. Greece still needs to make more and strenuous efforts to ensure that these rights are fully respected and protected”. With these words Thomas Hammarberg, the Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights, published today a report on human rights of minorities in Greece, focusing on issues relating to the right to freedom of association, statelessness and application of the Sharia Law.

While commending certain efforts made by the authorities in particular in the field of minority education in Thrace, the Commissioner remains deeply worried about the persistent denial of recognition of minorities other than the tripartite ‘Muslim’ one in western Thrace. The Commissioner also expresses his serious concerns by the over-restrictive practice of Greek courts that has led to non-registration of certain minority associations. “The authorities should urgently make possible the effective enjoyment by minority members of their right to freedom of association” said Thomas Hammarberg. “A consultative mechanism should also be created to ensure a continuous dialogue at all levels with minority groups, in accordance with the Council of Europe standards.”

The Commissioner also urges the authorities to complete promptly their efforts aimed at restoring the Greek nationality of those minority members who were deprived of it unlawfully by virtue of the former nationality code. “Particular care should be provided to those remained in Greece and who have limited financial resources to cover welfare and medical services” said the Commissioner. “As for the denationalised persons who are abroad, the authorities should consider the possibility of providing them, or their descendants, with satisfaction.”

Furthermore, Commissioner Hammarberg expresses serious concerns about the application of the Sharia Law concerning family and inheritance matters to Muslim Greek citizens in Thrace, by Muftis appointed by the Greek state. “Given the issues of incompatibility of this practice with European and international human rights standards, it is necessary to overhaul this practice and strengthen the substantive review and control by domestic courts of the Muftis’ judicial decisions.”

Finally, the Commissioner calls upon the Greek authorities to proceed promptly to the ratification of or accession to certain major Council of Europe treaties, such as the Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities, the European Convention on Nationality and the Fourth Protocol to the European Convention on Human Rights.

The report is based on the Commissioner’s visit to Greece on 8-10 December 2008. It is available, together with the Greek authorities’ comments, on the Commissioner’s website.

Media contact in the Commissioner’s Office: Stefano Montanari, +33 6 61 14 70 37; stefano.montanari@coe.int

Office of the Commissioner for Human Rights
Communication Unit
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